tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20385137.post131905313033846698..comments2023-11-02T04:21:10.340-04:00Comments on The way the Ball bounces: America's Ruling Class vs. The "Country Class"BallBounceshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08776039024486455199noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20385137.post-82773582023206120512010-07-26T00:40:55.723-04:002010-07-26T00:40:55.723-04:00Ahhh -- sweeping assertions made in a complete abs...Ahhh -- <b>sweeping</b> assertions made in a complete absence of either consensus definitions or supporting facts.<br /><br />Not exactly convincing Ricky -- <i>by any stretch of the imagination.</i><br /><br />Really all that you've demonstrated is that there are some, unspecified, people and movies, associated with Hollywood, that you don't like.<br /><br />And the rest of the world is meant to care, why?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20385137.post-27145860545881433972010-07-25T07:16:59.670-04:002010-07-25T07:16:59.670-04:00OK. You got me. But, I was not using definition in...OK. You got me. But, I was not using definition in the sense of definitive example. And by Hollywood, I meant not just the product they produce, but the people themselves.BallBounceshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08776039024486455199noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20385137.post-59129669602471196282010-07-23T11:10:03.204-04:002010-07-23T11:10:03.204-04:00A better title for that blog is ballisdelusionalab...A better title for that blog is ballisdelusionalaboutleftists.com :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20385137.post-52516694104892600612010-07-23T08:43:34.525-04:002010-07-23T08:43:34.525-04:00You're the one that equated my definition of l...You're the one that equated my definition of leftist with Hollywood. Stop arguing with yourself.<br /><br />Go here:<br /><br />leftistsaredelusional.blogspot.com<br /><br />for more.BallBounceshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08776039024486455199noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20385137.post-26167247581808005882010-07-23T01:13:42.690-04:002010-07-23T01:13:42.690-04:00The fact that this "candyfloss escapism"...The fact that this "candyfloss escapism" arguably contains "POVs, interpretations of reality, etc" does not make it any less <i>fictional</i>, or its contents a "delusion" under any meaningful definition of the word.<br /><br />Further you still have not provided any evidence that Hollywood, <i>with its crass commercialism</i>, <b>is in any legitimate way "leftist"!</b><br /><br />The Richard K. Ball definition of "leftist" appears to be 'anything that I don't like', including multinational media companies (i.e. 'Holywood' -- has it escaped your notice that Fox Entertainment is part of the same corporate behemoth as the right-wingnut Fox News?), a multinational oil company and a UK Conservative Party politician.<br /><br />Your definition of "leftist" is patently "delusional".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20385137.post-17104839026469615112010-07-22T18:20:29.673-04:002010-07-22T18:20:29.673-04:00Films are filled with POVs, interpretations of rea...Films are filled with POVs, interpretations of reality, etc.BallBounceshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08776039024486455199noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20385137.post-79161517286945899392010-07-22T13:55:43.504-04:002010-07-22T13:55:43.504-04:00You're conflating escapist candyfloss with del...You're conflating escapist candyfloss with delusion. The former is entertainment, the latter is "a fixed false opinion or belief with regard to objective things". Something as ephemeral as a Hollywood movie cannot be "fixed" and is <i>unrelated to</i> "objective things" (both to the creator and the viewer).<br /><br />Hollywood produces <i>fiction</i>.<br /><br />Get a clue.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20385137.post-21943433222153101952010-07-22T13:49:00.751-04:002010-07-22T13:49:00.751-04:00Oh, and add Roy Davis to the list of "credibi...Oh, and add Roy Davis to the list of "credibility-free" cranks that you've swallowed whole (see rebuttal from a genuine historian on thread below).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20385137.post-59573338934765751062010-07-22T13:37:47.056-04:002010-07-22T13:37:47.056-04:00The delusional of Hollywood is embedded in the fil...The delusional of Hollywood is embedded in the films it makes. Coupled with the delusion that they are doing something noble and uplifting.BallBounceshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08776039024486455199noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20385137.post-85819560136989308412010-07-22T13:29:13.943-04:002010-07-22T13:29:13.943-04:00Incidentally, what is "leftist" or "...Incidentally, what is "leftist" or "delusional" about making large amounts of money by selling entertainment of low artistic merit?<br /><br />It would seem to be both the epitome of the market economy, and entirely rational.<br /><br />I would suspect that most genuine "leftists" (i.e. those who actually merit the label "socialist") would despise Hollywood as a cesspool of bourgeoisie excess.<br /><br />If America wants Hollywood to stop making this tripe, all they have to do is stop buying it. This happened once (back around the late 60s), and Hollywood was forced to reinvent itself (as the "American New Wave").Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20385137.post-55519465997315568152010-07-22T13:22:25.481-04:002010-07-22T13:22:25.481-04:00Reagon was merely a beneficial mutation. Bwaahahah...Reagon was merely a beneficial mutation. Bwaahahahaha!BallBounceshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08776039024486455199noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20385137.post-60109408299488349922010-07-22T13:08:43.563-04:002010-07-22T13:08:43.563-04:00But given that Obama is not part of Holywood, does...But given that Obama is not part of Holywood, doesn't that mean that he fails to meet this definition, and therefore isn't a leftist?<br /><br />Less facetiously, Hollywood "is the very definition of" of corporate and personal greed -- the very antithesis of "leftist" economic policy. Did it fail to make your notice that the right-wing saint Ronald Reagan is a product of Hollywood?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20385137.post-10347500745129870852010-07-22T08:21:04.477-04:002010-07-22T08:21:04.477-04:00Hollywood is the very definition of leftist delusi...Hollywood is the very definition of leftist delusional.BallBounceshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08776039024486455199noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20385137.post-41287938683706883712010-07-21T15:30:15.161-04:002010-07-21T15:30:15.161-04:00Oh, and I'm amused that your sole pieces of ev...Oh, and I'm amused that your sole pieces of evidence that the left is delusional is (i) that Eric Holder dodged a loaded question rather than give the obvious answer (its not like politicians don't do that all the time) & that they had the temerity to suggest that Meryl Streep play Thatcher. Politics and Hollywood as usual is hardly "delusional".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20385137.post-238621221641734142010-07-21T15:10:19.822-04:002010-07-21T15:10:19.822-04:00Really, then why does the Right reflexively and de...Really, then why does the Right reflexively and <i>delusionally</i> accept the pseudoscience and pseudohistory of such cranks as McIntosh, Tyler, Monckton, David Barton, etc, as well as the often demonstrably and ludicrously false claims of Sarah Palin and Glenn Beck?<br /><br />You're doing it yourself. You don't seem to care how credibility-free a source is, if it confirms your preconceptions.<br /><br />For further examples read up on "cognitive closure ... the concept that the Republican political establishment and major conservative pundits review information from within a very limited circle of sources."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20385137.post-22376874890015361282010-07-21T07:56:08.632-04:002010-07-21T07:56:08.632-04:00You would need to read the quote in context, which...You would need to read the quote in context, which was the government control of the public school system -- which taxpayers must support.<br /><br />Delusional right? It's the left that's delusional. The facts of life are conservative.<br /><br />And the right to home-schooling is not a safe, secure right. It is being contested.BallBounceshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08776039024486455199noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20385137.post-42126814056000187852010-07-21T05:46:13.261-04:002010-07-21T05:46:13.261-04:00"Parents are not allowed to object to what th..."Parents are not allowed to object to what their children are taught. But the government may and often does object to how parents raise children."<br /><br />So private schools and home-schooling have suddenly ceased to exist in the US?<br /><br />More empty-headed reality-free inflammatory rhetoric from the delusional right.<br /><br />I wouldn't be surprised if the rest of her inflammatory claims likewise turn out to be the products of exaggeration, misrepresentation and/or urban myths. She appears to belong right beside Beck and Palin in the 'truthiness as news' department.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com