tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20385137.post3588421229271358889..comments2023-11-02T04:21:10.340-04:00Comments on The way the Ball bounces: Is It Wrong To Kill?BallBounceshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08776039024486455199noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20385137.post-58157353655397995052008-07-09T13:34:00.000-04:002008-07-09T13:34:00.000-04:00"r-type and k-type breeding: Inferring killing is ..."r-type and k-type breeding: Inferring killing is wrong for mammals, but not reptiles?"<BR/><BR/>Sort-of? Is it wrong for a fish to eat it's young? Or is it natural? Or is it both? Are the reptiles and fish defined by divine providence? If so, it isn't wrong, is it?<BR/><BR/>If it is wrong, then God is not all good.<BR/><BR/>These animals would not be burdened by original sin, thus, where does their wrong come from? Does the original evil of man spread into the "original animals" of the "Garden"?<BR/><BR/>That sure is one uncaring and imprecise God. All for want of an apple he chose to create. *giggles*Lore_Weaverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03710650180695926821noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20385137.post-22387917574836949652008-07-09T13:30:00.000-04:002008-07-09T13:30:00.000-04:00"Let's take it further. Alien life. Comes to earth..."Let's take it further. Alien life. Comes to earth. To them, we are BBQ fodder. Would it be morally "wrong" for them to kill us and also kill steers for beef? The darwinian atheist must conclude that it is a matter of sheer indifference - that the human species is not differentiated in any meaningful way from other species."<BR/><BR/>This is really awesome.<BR/><BR/>Would it be immoral for us to destroy sentient alien life? Depends on the conditions, I suppose.<BR/><BR/>Would it be immoral for them to do it to us? Depends on the conditions.<BR/><BR/>Here's a tricky one for you Rick. Are the aliens free from original sin? Are they capable of evil? Should this be true, would that require that all Aliens help humanity see the wisdom of God?<BR/><BR/>If extra-terrestrial aliens come down and believe in Christianity, I will convert.<BR/><BR/>Is it immoral to kill a non-sentient cow for food? Is it immoral to kill a sentient extra-terrestrial alien for 'food'?<BR/><BR/>I dunno where I'm going with this... fun to think about.Lore_Weaverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03710650180695926821noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20385137.post-5057411882778316292008-07-09T08:32:00.000-04:002008-07-09T08:32:00.000-04:00dj - Lore says "something" and assumes that what ...dj - Lore says "something" and assumes that what ever it was it has cleverly "debunked" whatever it is I have said.<BR/><BR/>Don't get me wrong -- often he says something very pointed and pertinent. But at this point I think my argument is left standing.<BR/><BR/>Let's take it further. Alien life. Comes to earth. To them, we are BBQ fodder. Would it be morally "wrong" for them to kill us and also kill steers for beef? The darwinian atheist must conclude that it is a matter of sheer indifference - that the human species is not differentiated in any meaningful way from other species.<BR/><BR/>The darwinian is left with the idea that it is "wrong" to kill another human being because "evolution says so". But evolution doesn't think, plan, or care. If that's all that morality is, it can be safely over-ridden whenever it suits us -- to override our moral sense would be no more of a sin than slipping on a condom to frustrate evolution's relentless push at reproduction.BallBounceshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08776039024486455199noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20385137.post-65151940478378438042008-07-08T17:50:00.000-04:002008-07-08T17:50:00.000-04:00r-type and k-type breeding: Inferring killing is w...r-type and k-type breeding: Inferring killing is wrong for mammals, but not reptiles?metasyntactic variablehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10943517061903157664noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20385137.post-81214546286113277532008-07-08T11:48:00.000-04:002008-07-08T11:48:00.000-04:00I think I debunked this line of thought by alludin...I think I debunked this line of thought by alluding to r-type and k-type breeding.<BR/><BR/>Uncaring as it may be.<BR/><BR/>Bears are not sentient, Humans are.<BR/><BR/>We aren't able to personify a bear to the point where it can make a choice outside of it's base instincts.<BR/><BR/>---<BR/><BR/>We could segue into a discussion about war perpetrated by Christians, Muslims, Aztecs, and others at the behest of their God(s), we could then debate if God really does view killing as "Wrong". Why would God incite Humans to kill each other?<BR/><BR/>This gets back to your "original sin" argument. I deny your "original sin" on the basis that Adam, Eve, and talking snakes never existed (in our universe).Lore_Weaverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03710650180695926821noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20385137.post-36486437014978546322008-07-08T02:44:00.000-04:002008-07-08T02:44:00.000-04:00Eugenics as practiced in the Hadamar Clinic would ...Eugenics as practiced in the Hadamar Clinic would agree with your epexegetic, never forgetting the Holocaust.metasyntactic variablehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10943517061903157664noreply@blogger.com